This could be a good exercise in Logic and Critical Thinking. I will try to approach this from a math set theory point of view.
1. John says he is a TT. ( Ok, here we have a basic statement)
2. John says he came here (1975 actually) for an IBM 5100 computer. ( Ok, he has a purpose)
3. John wants to remain anon but posts numerous posts to this board and
at least 2 others where he expounds on, among other things, the
functioning and design of the TT machine.
(OK, here is the BIG problem. Why would a TT’er reveal himself
& the TT machine? In John’s stated mission, these actions have no
purpose.)
4. John alludes to a civil war being started between the Democrats
and Republicans. Later, this escalates into WW3 and he mentions that it
is a “good” thing for our soceity. ( 3 billion people dead a “good”
thing?)
5. John tells us to: buy a gun, find 5 friends, get a bicycle, yada,
yada, yada. ( this conflicts with his above comments: here he seems to
want to save some people, while above he wants to kill us all off)
6. In previous posts John mentions that he has no idea what GINGER is
but in a later post he mentions media hype and alludes to IT not
amounting to much.
7. John mentions the Big War(2015) was between the Cities of
America (the enemy of John) and Russia, China, etc.(so not only do we
have a civil war but now we have a war between the city folk and rural
folk in the US, AND a world war)
8. John says the civil war which starts in 2004 or 2005 (depending
on the post) leads to the world war which starts in 2015. ( So we have
a TEN YEAR civil war???)
9. John mentions that the mechanical typewriter is a major machine
again in the future, but in another post says the Internet still exists
and is widely used.
( Who builds typewriters anymore and who last used the typewriter
in a most infamous way? Hint: he lived in a one room cabin in Montana
and hated technology and soceity)
Responses???
Posted by John Titor on 02-12-2001 11:51 PM
I almost made it to bed…
I’m flattered you went back and double checked.
((3. John wants to remain anon but posts numerous posts to this
board and at least 2 others where he expounds on, among other things,
the functioning and design of the TT machine. OK, here is the BIG
problem. Why would a TT’er reveal himself & the TT machine? In
John’s stated mission, these actions have no purpose.))
I still fail to see why this is a problem. If you can think of
another way where I can interact with people I would very much like to
hear your suggestions. Why isn’t the mere act of speaking with other
people an end in itself? Personally, I find the unit interesting and I
like talking about it. There must be something in your life like that.
((4. John alludes to a civil war being started between the
Democrats and Republicans. Later, this escalates into WW3 and he
mentions that it is a “good” thing for our soceity. ( 3 billion people
dead a “good” thing?))
I don’t believe I ever said the war was between Democrats and
Republicans. If I am incorrect, please point that out. It doesn’t
exactly escalate as much as it opens the door for other aggression.
Yes, I think the war would be good for society and I would be happy to
debate that with you.
((5. John tells us to: buy a gun, find 5 friends, get a bicycle,
yada, yada, yada. ( this conflicts with his above comments: here he
seems to want to save some people, while above he wants to kill us all
off))
If you could point out how this violates the three guidelines I
stated earlier I will give it considerable thought. Perhaps you are
correct and that was a mistake. Again, I don’t believe I said I want to
kill you. Personally, I think murder is wrong. You seem to be pretty
good at that yourself.
((6. In previous posts John mentions that he has no idea what
GINGER is but in a later post he mentions media hype and alludes to IT
not amounting to much.))
Again, I don’t believe I said that either. My point in that
conversation was about feeling manipulated by hype. Since they ARE
asking you to buy something, I would be very interested in your lengthy
and critical postings about ITS credibility. If you could post that
link I would very much like to see it.
((7. John mentions the Big War(2015) was between the Cities of
America (the enemy of John) and Russia, China, etc.(so not only do we
have a civil war but now we have a war between the city folk and rural
folk in the US, AND a world war))
Hmmm…are you familiar with the Russian partisan movement in WWII?
((8. John says the civil war which starts in 2004 or 2005
(depending on the post) leads to the world war which starts in 2015. (
So we have a TEN YEAR civil war???))
It’s 2004. I apologize for a missed key (very observant – we all
need good critics). Perhaps our definition of war is different. I would
define it as a conflict where organized groups engage in maneuver and
armed conflict. The first U.S. civil war lasted 4 years and the English
civil war lasted 6. How long is too long?
((9. John mentions that the mechanical typewriter is a major
machine again in the future, but in another post says the Internet
still exists and is widely used.
( Who builds typewriters anymore and who last used the typewriter in a
most infamous way? Hint: he lived in a one room cabin in Montana and
hated technology and soceity))
Actually, what I said was, “…you may be surprised at how many
people use typewriters.” I don’t understand the conflict. What’s wrong
with typewriters? At least you don’t have to plug them in.
Thanks for the patience…getting to the other questions.
Posted by Rick Donaldson on 02-13-2001 07:54 AM
First off, the clown who called everyone “sheep” here is out of
line. Go BACK and read my posts, CAREFULLY. No one here is a sheep. We
are interested in what the guy had to say, because he made several
points, some of them very sound, scientifically.
I really detest people like you who go around and make rash assuptions
about “everyone on this list” or another list. You’re the same kind of
jerk that goes around and tells the media that “all militia members are
a bad”, or “guns are a bad thing”. The same kind of person that wants
people like “Social Services” to pidgeonhole everyone. Instead of
insulting the intelligence of the people who are here trying to use
deductive reasoning to ascertain the truth about someone’s means,
motive and methods, why don’t you go back to your little world and
leave the rest of us alone who are trying to find out the truth about
someone!? Absolute, denial of any possibilities is your bag. Go deny
Big Foot exists, or go deny that the military has an Area 51.
Mr. Titor, no, you didn’t answer my questions at all regarding
singularities (except that they would ‘evaporate’, or the device would
‘remove itself from the time line’).
In fact, regardless of your background you should have a basic
understanding of physics. I’m absoultely CERTAIN that if you’re a pilot
of an aircraft you ARE an engineer to an extent in that you understand
BASIC PHYSICS of how your aircraft flies.
If you’re a race car driver, evidence points to the fact that even THEY
have a very good understanding of their cars, engines and the physics
thereof.
I know for instance that my Jeep is capable of about 198
horsepower. I know that it uses fuel injection. I’m not a mechanic, but
I can certainly tell you a great deal about how an internal combustion
engine works. I can tell you how a bicycle functions (because I used to
ride them). I can tell you a good deal about physiology as well – the
human body, BECAUSE I HAVE TO KNOW!
By the way, I don’t remember the “horsepower forumla” off HAND, but
I can tell you 1 hp = 746 watts. I am an engineer – and I can tell you
this much more, if you’re a real time traveler from 2036 and time
travel is as easy (and as often) as you say it is, and you’re in the
military or some government service, then by 1) exposing yourself,
you’ve very likely broken several regulations, 2) Put yourself at risk
by doing so, 3) should know a hell of a lot more about the machines
you’re operating, 4) are inconsistent in several aspects of your posts.
In other words John – you’re an apparent fraud. That’s too bad,
too. These people here want to know the truth, they want to believe
that there are time travelers, and that perhaps TT would even explain
the UFO pheonomenon or other things that are unexplained in the world
today. If you were a real person and you have gone so far as to tell us
“I’m real, but I don’t care if you believe me, in fact I don’t want you
to believe me”… then you’ve got a serious problem with reality – not
relativity.
By the way, I have some very extreme reasons to doubt that a
microsignularity exists in the first place, and in the second place, if
it DID exist, I doubt it would be the “size of an electron”. In any
case, a signularity (a black hole for those of you who haven’t figured
that out yet) is an extreme mass, and holding it in a magnetic field in
a gravitational field as strong as Earth’s would simply rip the
singularity from the magnetic field causing the black hold to crash to
the center of the mass of Earth. The Earth would then become part of
the black hole as it grew in size, pulling in the matter of the Earth.
At least that’s what physics says. If there are “fail safes” on
such a device, the device’s power would have to be backed up multiple
times, and then STILL FUNCTION (to ‘rotate the craft out of this time
line’) to save the existing time line from major problems.
Sorry folks, too many holes (not black holes) in this theory.
[Edited by Rick Donaldson on 02-13-2001 at 08:01 AM]
Posted by Chris Greycheck on 02-13-2001 08:57 AM
Rick (& John)
Rick, you’ve made some very good points and criticisms regarding John and his claims.
That’s right, even a racecar driver has a basic understanding as to
the physics involved in his car, so John, why can’t you explain your
“time machine” in greater detail?
And just for the record the formula for horsepower is something along the lines of reldline rpm X 35 / 6500…
I know that’s not the right formula, but it’s something like that,
I can check it in my “Top 10 Torque Monsters” of Motor Trend magazine.
Posted by Mel Reckling on 02-13-2001 09:14 AM
John,
A couple of questions
1. Is the Chevy truck better than the Ford truck for time travel. I
always thought the TT package meant trailer towing. Geez was I wrong!
Is Chevy still making time travel machines in 2036?
2. How did you buy your truck? How could you title it if you are only 3 years old to the title bureau at this point?
You won’t be able to sell it in Minnesota unless it’s in your name
and clear. Is the Chevy newer and how did you pay for it? Did you
scrounge around to find 40 year old currency in 2036? I know I wouldn’t
take any money from someone that had mint marks from 2036.
3. Does the truck have to be running when you are travelling
through time. Did you come here in a Chevy? What if you run out of gas?
Are there any factory options that make it easier, like cruise control?
That’s all I can think of for now.
Posted by John Titor on 02-13-2001 10:51 AM
((1)Have you ever went on any other time traveling missions? If so, what were they?))
Yes, but they were all training missions. There is a great deal of
psychological profiling and testing and one of the training missions
involved choosing a time in your life (within two years) where you wish
you would have done something different and then going back to convince
yourself to do it. The idea is to become familiar with the possibility
of meeting yourself which can be rather difficult. It is quite odd to
look at “yourself” and have a conversation. Since any “you” on another
worldline would not be a mirror image, you get a slightly distorted
feeling while seeing yourself, let alone the concept of speaking to
yourself
(2)I believe you said you had pictures of your time machine, could you post a link to uploaded images?
I would be happy to do that and I tried a link earlier. I suspect
that attaching links to other boards without the Sysop’s permission is
in bad taste.
(3)If you have any pictures of the IBM computer you were susposed to get, could you post a link to them also?
I’m pretty sure there must be something on the web now about the IBM 5100.
(4)I looked up the name ‘Titor’ in the state of Flordia on
555-1212.com and couldn’t find ANY Titors, is your family not listed in
the phone book?
I guess it depends when you look.
(5)Can I contact you through any other means of online communications?
Like AOL Instant Messagner? ICQ? MSN? Something so I can have a
conversation with you! But if you don’t have those, could you possibly
consider downloading one of them, then emailing me your user name
abcs_123s@hotmail.com,nks!
I’ve tried talking online before and found it quite enjoyable but I
find the questions and comments come so rapidly its hard to keep up.
(6)What is the specific Date that the Nuclear war starts? If you
can’t remember the exact date, could you put the month at least? An
estimate!
I remember the exact date. When it comes, it will not be a surprise.
(7)What is the speed of the average computer in the future? I am
assuming it is in ghZ, if it is higher, could you post the name of that
hZ measurement and its relation to the ghZ?
Ghz is not a useful measurement. Computers are no longer measured by
their speed as mush as the number of variables (not calculations) they
can handle per second.
(8)Can you do your own Time Traveling ventures whenever you want?
If so, how much does it cost? Or can you make ‘pit stops’ along the way
back to 2036?
No, the unit doesn’t belong to me. I can’t make stops on the way home
as it will throw the gravity measurements off and It would force me to
backtrack along the backtrack. Also, I can’t just leave and arrive at
any place and time I want to. There are physical and technical limits
to when and where I can go.
(9)Have you ever went past your future, like to 2050 or somewhere around there? If so, what is the world like then?
No, I haven’t been to the future of my 2036. My profile qualified me for a trip to the past.
((what about marilyn monroe? i wasn’t even born yet when she was
alive – but i know she existed? & telling us something such as her
existance would not greatly affect the outcome of our entire world.. so
why not tell us?))
I understand your position and appreciate your supportive outlook.
However, I have given some very detailed information that could be
checked out. Please consider that our frame of reference is quite
different and finding subjects to discuss and exchange information
about could be a challenge. I’m just not up on music, Hollywood and
sports in the year 2001. You could ask me all you want about 1975 but I
suspect that’s not very impressive.
((…but it has nothing to do with his age..))
Actually it does, I have never personally experienced this time as
an adult and “Brittany Spears” was not a big topic of conversation when
your hiking through the swamp. Everything I know about your time is
from books, magazines and old videotapes that weren’t destroyed in the
war. If it makes you feel any better, I do struggle with not talking
about football.
The animal Kingdom is alive and well. I’m sure it suffered but
there fewer people infringing on animal’s habitats now. Nuclear war is
a very undesirable thing but it is not the end of the world. There are
areas and cities we can’t enter and the environment did suffer a great
deal of damage but we are recovering. Isn’t Hirroshima a thriving city
today? The major physical affects include skin cancer, infertility,
infection, etc. Almost everyone has some sort of physical remnant from
the war.
I am aware the concept of the Rapture is related to Christian
Prophecy but I am not familiar with the details. Yes, there are people
I trust here and I would hate for any harassment or harm to come to
them. I am aware of the Mayan Calander but in 2012, it was not
something I was able to think about. When the time comes, I’m sure
people will find the signs they are looking for that leads them to the
end of time.
When I say fear will keep you alive I am talking about the natural
instincts and premonitions that we all trun off when its convienent.
The same person who has five dead bolt locks on their door will think
nothing about getting into a parking garage elevator with a total
stranger. I think the fear of God is the fear of separation from God.
Some of you may wonder what a time traveler does with his day while
he’s posting on the web. I spend a great deal of time downloading
information and storing it for my return. “Art’s” site is definitely on
that list. I’ll have to think about who the most remembered people are.
Again, my viewpoint is quite squewed.
((1)Who is the Major Super Power? ))
It depends on how you define power. If you mean military, the world has
developed into an odd balance. There are plenty of nuclear weapons left
but if anyone uses them they will be instantly erased from the planet
by everyone else regardless of the politics. We are very tired of war.
(2) Are the two political parties still Republicans and Democrats?
There are no Republicans or Democrats to speak of. There are now over 10 major political parties.
(3) How many States are there?
The states as you know them still exist but their political power
has been combined with other states around them. There are now 5 major
geopolitical areas in the united states.
(4) Which states get the worst?
When you can’t drink the water its bad everywhere.
(5) Were only cities along the Eastern Sea port hit in the Nuclear War, or all over the country?
Mostly cities and large military areas in the entire country.
(6) Do companys like Microsoft, Yahoo!, and other internet software companys still exist?
No.
(7) Does money look alot different than it does now? If you have a picture, could you please upload it and post the link!
No, money is pretty much the same. Unfortunately, I do not have any money with me because I wouldn’t be able to use it here.
(8) So then when you time travel you can never actually go back to the EXACT same place you left from?
That is correct, in physical terms, I can never get back to the exact worldline I left from.
(9) Was alot of the United States’ 18-24 age group slaughtered in the war because of Draft?
Yes.
(10)Do you ever get visitors from later time periods to 2036?
Not that I’m aware of but I can’t say it isn’t happening.
(11) Are there any other companys, besides the one you work for that have TTs and send them out regularly?
I work for the military. GE just makes the unit.
(12) Does the government know there is TT going on?
In 2036, yes.
(13) Why were YOU selected to be a TT? What gave you special qualifications?
I am related to a key figure in the development of the IBM 5100.
(14) How many TTs are there on the team that you are on? How do new recruits get selected?
My unit has between 6 and 10. When I left, there were 7 others.
Military service, physical fitness, history or technical background and
special relationship to target contacts get you in the door.
(15) What all countrys are on our side in the war? What all countrys are on the oposite side?
Don’t have much to add there.
(16) Which country gets the worst in the war?
Again, the entire world is affected. Even if you don’t take a direct hit, dying crops and no water can ruin your day.
My time traveling nemesis Javier (a.k.a. TTA) has found me yet
again! As long as the links last, I do urge people to go back and take
a look at some of the more insightful things you have to share.
((when i ask you a question of why you can’t tell us ‘there will be
an earthquake in isreal in 2010..’ or something of the such..this is
not a question that someone could CHANGE. it is a natural disaster
& i purposely chose that sort of a disaster so the question could
not be passed by as you did in your response. however, you choose to
use a different type of example rather than answer my question
-directly-.))
I will not share information that would allow someone to avoid death by probability.
((i just think you skirt around too many issues .. & by
refusing to even mention something from the ‘future’ that could not be
-changed- by people -today-..it just gives me further evidence that you
are not who you say you are.))
Again, what I think is important doesn’t impress anyone and
although I could point to various things I’ve said about other subjects
the response is usually ho-hum tell us about music and sports. I
suppose I could lie and make something up but what’s the point?
((In fact, regardless of your background you should have a basic understanding of physics.))
I do but your questions were rather specific. I would love to talk
physics and I’ll be happy to walk through the operation of the unit.
((1) exposing yourself, you’ve very likely broken several regulations,
No, I haven’t.
((2) Put yourself at risk by doing so,))
Yes, that’s potential true but what I gain offsets that. Does that
statement answer the question why time traveler’s do not revel
themselves?
((3) should know a hell of a lot more about the machines you’re operating,))
I do know very much about it. I’m just not willing to share it with everyone.
((4) are inconsistent in several aspects of your posts.))
If you could point out the specific questions I will be happy to address them.
((By the way, I have some very extreme reasons to doubt that a
microsignularity exists in the first place, and in the second place, if
it DID exist, I doubt it would be the “size of an electron”. In any
case, a signularity (a black hole for those of you who haven’t figured
that out yet) is an extreme mass, and holding it in a magnetic field in
a gravitational field as strong as Earth’s would simply rip the
singularity from the magnetic field causing the black hold to crash to
the center of the mass of Earth. The Earth would then become part of
the black hole as it grew in size, pulling in the matter of the
Earth.))
I’m not sure if you want me to go over these issues one at a time or if you’re just making a point.
The formula for horsepower is HP = torque X RPM / 5252.
((1. Is the Chevy truck better than the Ford truck for time travel.
I always thought the TT package meant trailer towing. Geez was I wrong!
Is Chevy still making time travel machines in 2036?))
The vehicle must have a strong suspension.
((2. How did you buy your truck? How could you title it if you are
only 3 years old to the title bureau at this point? You won’t be able
to sell it in Minnesota unless it’s in your name and clear. Is the
Chevy newer and how did you pay for it? Did you scrounge around to find
40 year old currency in 2036? I know I wouldn’t take any money from
someone that had mint marks from 2036.))
Don’t worry. Fortunately, these are things we’re taught at time
travel school in “how to get around in the sarcastic 20th century. I
said I didn’t have any money from 2036. I have plenty from here.
((3. Does the truck have to be running when you are travelling
through time. Did you come here in a Chevy? What if you run out of gas?
Are there any factory options that make it easier, like cruise
control?))
The vehicle must be standing still.
Posted by Benedict Gumby on 02-13-2001 11:07 AM
You still haven’t answered my question from page 8
}:P
Posted by John Titor on 02-13-2001 11:23 AM
((I just have this to ask you. Do you recognize the name Benedict? I
want to know because I fully intend to be a prominent figure within the
next 20 years))
No, I can’t say that I do. However, since I’m archiving all of this
and will submit it with my report, it will eventually end up on our
internet.
If you want to leave a meassage to yourself in the future, please
feel free to do so. I would make it broad enough so your name or some
other important word will pop up in routine search engine that “you”
might be using in 2036.
Also, be aware that the “you” in my 2036 will be unaware that the you left a message at all.
Posted by Blonnie Dowden on 02-13-2001 01:14 PM
my question
(ijust think you skirt around too many issues .. & by refusing to
even mention something from the ‘future’ that could not be -changed- by
people -today-..it just gives me further evidence that you are not who
you say you are.))
your response:Again, what I think is important doesn’t impress anyone
and although I could point to various things I’ve said about other
subjects the response is usually ho-hum tell us about music and sports.
I suppose I could lie and make something up but what’s the point?
you fail to understand why i ask the silly hum-drum questions. i do not
truly care what the music/hollywood will be like in 5-10 years..my
whole reason for asking the unimportant questions is because they are
-unimportant-. you say that you can’t answer questions about when a
natural disastor occurs..or things that can be -changed- by people to
alter the way they -should- happen. so i am asking questions that can
NOT be changed. someone can not change the fact that “Girly G. Hottie”
is the next big name in showbusiness’.. my whole reason for asking
these things is so that in 5-10 years when you’re “gone” i can say
“holy bejezuz.., maybe that guy was for real!”. that would be the
extent of it..it’s not like i could -do-change- anything.. i just want
to know if you’re real & you give no proof whatsoever that you’re
real. even if it’s not an instantaneous realization..i would realize
this when whatever you said would happen came true. i am -not- trying
to be shallow w/my questions..these are no things that i -care- whether
or not it’s this or that.. it’s just proof for me.
i’m beginning to think, as someone suggested – that you’re writing
a book & this is all material for it. you said you didnt want us to
be sheep & just believe..you -wanted- us to ask questions. so if we
ask questions then you can sew up any holes you have in your story.. so
it will be the tightest & most realisticly possibly sci-fi time
travel story ever. i don’t like the idea that you could possibly be
using all of these people & if you are *grr* shame on you.
Posted by John Titor on 02-13-2001 01:51 PM
((my whole reason for asking the unimportant questions is because they are -unimportant-))
If it’s unimportant to you why would it be imporatnat to me?
Posted by Blonnie Dowden on 02-13-2001 02:00 PM
you are the most frustrating time traveler i’ve ever met!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(ok you’re the only one i’ve ever met)
-
geez..why do you isolate that one question? the whole thing was used to
mean that it was -unimportant- in the fact that just because you tell
us those things ..we can not change or alter them.. they are just
-proof-.. unimportant meaning why would it alter time by you telling
us.. “keep an eye out for so-and-so..they will rise to fame.” or
something like that. we couldn’t -change- that.. & if we could..why
would we want to because it’s “unimportant” in comparison to a bombing
or drought or war..etc..
it is just PROOF THAT YOU’RE TRUE which you fail to provide.
you are aggravating.
-blonie-
Posted by James Boley on 02-13-2001 02:05 PM
There is a guy claiming your a fraud in another string entitled “I am from 2040…”
It would be interesting to see you go head to head.
Posted by Brad Jensen on 02-13-2001 02:39 PM
Fraud!!!
Go to my post in “I am from the year 2040…” and debunk my calculations on time travel.
You can’t, because you are a fraud!
Posted by Craig Cuthbert on 02-13-2001 03:31 PM
This is getting just …weird …enough.
John Titor – Are you being obtuse about Bonnie’s inquiries for more
personal reasons? Her logic is pretty sound, and you’re avoiding
discussing some of the things that people naturally find curious about
other cultures. If I was traveling in any other cultural setting, I
would want to know about … The Culture. What kind of music is
popular, what kind of recreation is enjoyable, what holidays are
important…
Being a bit coy, I would say, for someone who’s been through the rigors
of such heavy historical dramas. My guess is that there are some simple
folk songs that people find some pleasure in hearing, in the future
(especially after cultural destabilizing events).
Do you feel some pleasure in breathing clean air and not having to check a geiger counter every few miles?
Are there people in this time period who are hip (aware) of Time
Travelers and who accept you as one? I would imagine there are folk in
our time, who travel in different circles (out of the mainstream), who
have some money and/or some power, and who know things that the rest of
us do not. Are you, or others, in touch with people like that? How ARE
you financing things?
And if this is NOT for real, working that tongue a little harder
‘gainst the edge of your cheek – for the rest of us simpletons, could
earn you some game points.
Posted by Jeffery Birks on 02-13-2001 05:39 PM
I spotted few typing errors in Johns comments so I will assume that
he has had an average education by our standards. There are better
questions than those posed, ones which he should find easier to answer,
but for anyone else would be much harder;
1. Name the immediate political succeosor’s to George Bush and Tony Blair.
2. Name any human being/animal/invention which became famous from
obscurity prior to today (This is really easy, just name anyone who
shot to fame for anything – provided they are completly unknown now,
and that it happens soon).
3. Name any near future shock event that makes history – political
assasinations, inventions, marriages etc, same rules – it should happen
soon with nobody having a clue it was about to happen (exept maybe
time-travellers).
4. If you are older than 36 then there should be 2 of you here
right now. You would both possess the same basic fingerprints and DNA.
If you really want to prove your case then meet up with your younger
self and get some police evidence.
Posted by Angel Lynnn on 02-13-2001 06:10 PM
John,
Would you be willing to call in on Art’s show on Wednesday, Feb. 14? He will have open lines all night.
If he had a time traveler line open would you call in?
How long will you be here in 2001?
When are you going back?
What all are you taking back with you?
Is propane still around in the future?
Thanks for taking the time to answer our questions.
Angel Lynnn
Posted by Roy Meserve on 02-13-2001 06:43 PM
A most compelling story and an interesting person. I am no
scientist so cannot question adequately the physics invol-
ved in such endeavors- but I could not understand Al Bielek
and his recounting of the science behind the Montauk episode
either, but I know he was telling the truth. For those int-
ersted, from that interview and Mr Bielek’s book, I fully believe time
and space travel exists,(since 1983) although under exactly whose aegis
I do not presume to know.
And your socio/eco/political comments about our present state and its fate are eminently believable and highly likely.
I would hope that the paradise I live in would somehow be spared
(the Hawaiian Islands) but I suspect it would not be spared as a
strategic target for obvious reasons. Indeed, in general terms I
understand innately for myself why these things must come to pass. May
God have mercy on our souls.
Thanks for your own curiosity and courage. I wish you and your family only the best…for all time.
R.C. Meserve
rcmeserv@lava.net
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