Postagens Originais do John Titor (Parte 4)

Posted by Matt Hagemeier on 02-06-2001 02:33 PM

John, the life you desrribe in 2036, sounds very much like life my grandparents described in the WW2 era. interesting indeed.
What was the reason for Russia’s involvement in the civil war? Why did they bomb China and Europe?
Did the U.S counter attack with thier own nucler weapns?

Posted by John Lensk on 02-06-2001 03:25 PM Question
Dear John,
I am very intrigued by your story, but some things dont make very
much sense to me. This IBM 5100 computer you talk of having to go back
in time to get is the first thing that does not make sense to me. What
does the old 5100 computer do that computers of your time isnt able to
do? Im sure the future will have a wide use of emulation technology,
inwhich you could easily emulate this old computer and all of its uses.
What would the original computer do that an emulated version of it not
be able to do?

Posted by Kathleen Sander on 02-07-2001 01:02 AM
Could your parents tell something seemed familiar about you or have
you only seen your 3-year old self? I guess you would have to re-meet
your parents and be a friend of the family. Any changes in how children
are taught? Education still “taught” in a classroom?

Posted by James Boley on 02-08-2001 08:27 AM
I still don’t buy your story. There are inconsistancies that are to large to write off.
Some of the first posts you mentioned that you hoped your story would be at least interesting. It is.

Posted by John Titor on 02-08-2001 09:40 AM
Russia and China have always had a very strange relationship. Even
the news I see now indicates that continued weapons deals to allies,
border clashes and overpopulation will lead to hostilities. The West
will become very unstable which gives China the confidence to “expand”.
I’m assuming you are all aware that China has millions of male soldiers
right now that they know will never be able to find wives. The attack
on Europe is in response to a unified European army that masses and
moves East from Germany. Also, please be aware that from my viewpoint,
Russia attacked my enemy who was in the U.S. cities. Yes, the U.S. did
counter attack.

Based on what I know about the 5100, it has a few very interesting
and worthwhile properties that make it worthwhile for a time traveler
to recover. Also, please keep in mind that civilization is recovering
from a war. Yes, we do have the technology but many of the tools were

As you are probably aware, UNIX will have a timeout error in 2038
and many of the mainframe systems that ran a large part of the
infrastructure were based on very old IBM computer code. The 5100 has
the ability to easily translate between the old IBM code, APL, BASIC
and (with a few tweaks in 1975) UNIX. This may seem insignificant but
the fact that the 5100 is portable means I can easily take it back to
2036. I do expect they will create some sort of emulation system to use
in multiple locations.

When I arrived, I approached my father and was easily able to prove
to him who I was. I am currently with my parents and the “me” who is
three. They are very aware of what I am doing, why I am here and when I
will be leaving. It may interest you to know that my father still does
not truly believe the machine works even after touching and seeing it.
Yes, education is still taught in a classroom but the entire focus and
system looks nothing like what you have now. Don’t worry, you won’t
miss it.

((I still don’t buy your story. There are inconsistancies that are to large to write off…))
I understand your viewpoint and I respect it. However, I am
confused by a twist in the way the language is used. Another fellow who
posted earlier was a bit upset over what I was saying because he
thought I was soon going to ask for money by selling something. Since I
don’t have anything to sell I am curious why, “I…don’t buy your story”,
is the natural way to say what you did. I am aware that it’s off the
cuff to say but wouldn’t it be better to say I don’t believe your
story? Why is the other way so common?

Posted by James Boley on 02-08-2001 10:01 AM
I don’t believe your story.

Posted by Matt Hagemeier on 02-08-2001 10:52 AM
John, Does the U.S still have adversaries or “outside” threats 2036? If so, who, what, and why?
Korea United?
How does the U.S media cover the civil war? Is it unibased or does it favor one side?
Are you creating a alternate timeline by just interacting with us?

Posted by Jack Stansbury on 02-08-2001 11:40 AM
Everyone that is reading or posting wants to what the future has in
store for them and their family and friends. John only can tell us that
he is from 2036. Well John give us some good stuff. That’s all we want.
We need meat .


Posted by Thurstan Davies on 02-08-2001 01:13 PM
Dear John Titor,
Thank-you for your interesting forum entries.
I am currently living and working in the Middle East and I imagine
that I will become one of the 3 Billion that die during WWIII.

I am not asking if I will die or how the Middle East fairs during the conflicts.
I am though interested in the patern of exchange of fire, in that you mentioned US, Russia, China and Europe.
You didn’t mention Austrialia… if this continent survived
unscathed or in fact any other land, would this be a better place, in
your time, to gather the rescoures you require ?


Posted by John Titor on 02-08-2001 01:18 PM
I would characterize world politics as two boxers who have just gone
multiple rounds and they’re both pretty beat up. I’m sure someone out
there wants to kill us but no one is very organized yet. There is a
great deal of fear over rogue groups coming across un-launched missile
systems, 55 gallon drums of Anthrax or portable nuclear weapons.

((Korea United?))
I guess you could say that. Taiwan, Japan and Korea were all “forcefully annexed” before N Day.
I don’t remember a great deal about media coverage during the civil
conflicts. I would probably characterize it the same way you see
coverage of Waco, Ruby Ridge and Elian Gonzalez.

From my viewpoint, yes, this is an alternate timeline. From your viewpoint, no.
I have thought again about how to revel information that would make
me more believable but I always come across the following problems:

1.All of you become much less interesting as sheep. I can’t talk to you if you’re not skeptical.
2.Anything I say could be acted on beforehand and changed anyway.
3.All the really interesting information is months or years away and I’d be gone when it happens.
4.I find it morally wrong to assist someone with anything where they might gain and someone else would lose or die.
5.There’s a slim chance your worldline is just different enough my “prediction” won’t happen.
6.I simply don’t know.
Consider that you are a time traveler who goes back in time to the
first week of February 1970 and you are confronted with the same
problem. What do you remember right now about the second week of
February 1970? Naturally, the conflict in Vietnam and the Middle East
come up but as someone has already stated here, “that’s old news”. I
suppose I could predict the failure of Apollo 13 spacecraft but since
time travel is ridiculous, I would be blamed for sabotage. I might even
decide to tell you about an earthquake in Peru but then people that
would have died by chance will now live and vice versa.

All I can think of is to make something up. So here goes…. The
space shuttle mission may or may not have a problem connecting the new
lab to the space station.

How was that?

Posted by Craig Cuthbert on 02-08-2001 01:22 PM
“Buying a Story” means “I don’t buy what you’re selling”. It’s a
reaction to a preoccupation we have with issues of “Trust” …because
we have so many interactions with “others” i.e. people who aren’t a
part of our immediate inner circles. There’s a wariness that “another”
is deceiving us in some manner, either to con us (gain our confidence
for some gain – possibly financial) or work their way into our inner
circles and cause some form of havoc. Therefore their story is up for
judgement as to whether it is worth “banking on”. EG – You may think
you could have some sort or beneficial effect by telling people how
things may turn out in the future? Don’t bank on it.

Art Bell use to have an archive of the night that he had an open line
for Time Travelers. I have to say that much of what I listened to, rang
true with my own “prophetic” thoughts.

So, this enemy that was attacked in the US by Russia, was it Islamic in nature?
What it IT (Ginger)? The buzz is that it revolutionizes
transportation. What change happened in the early ’00s that relates to

I want to get into the Automated Home technologies business. Any suggestions? Please e-mail me :-)

Posted by Chris Greycheck on 02-08-2001 01:53 PM Lightbulb
Again I have to congratulate you on your perceived high level of
intelligence, and I don’t doubt that you may indeed be a physics
professor or just some guy who gets off misleading others.

You stated:
“2.Anything I say could be acted on beforehand and changed anyway.”
Not true at all…not *anything*…just a few days ago there was an
attempt at Bush’s life, surely that’s going to be a significant
historical event. It’s the first attack/assasination attempt on the
president of the new millenium. Hmmm, yeah, you could have warned us
days ago about, and it may have been changed, and not happened…but
that’s very very doubtful. At the time, no one would have taken you
seriously anyway…but if you had of predicted that, and it happened,
then even I would likely believe you now.

Or what about telling us something like a hollywood story of
someone breaking up, or getting married, good luck trying to change
that…or of a company’s profits…SOMETHING…

You are VERY evasive, and you don’t give even a single “iota” of
evidence…nothing…nadda…zero. I remember you saying that your
point of this was to come on and get people to at least accept the
possibility of time travel, well no kidding, great time
traveller…sheesh.. look at what message board you are on!! many
including myself certainly beleive that it’s possible, but all you do
is give fantastic stories and shrug off any attempt at evidence with
your lame excuses. What all of us on here want is the truth, not
science fiction.

“3.All the really interesting information is months or years away and I’d be gone when it happens.”
Hey, we’ll be the judge of that there John. That’s not the point
whether the information is interesting, that’s subjective, the point is
that you should prove yourself. It’s true that you claim to be a
scientist right? Well isn’t one of the aims of scientists is to prove
to *others* of their hypothesis or theory. Even if you’re not one, you
should still make an *attempt* at trying to prove yourself.

“4.I find it morally wrong to assist someone with anything where they might gain and someone else would lose or die.”
OK fine…so why don’t tell us a way in which we can save lives or
help people without harming others…like of car accidents…what plane
trip not to take…etc?! And don’t come back with the cliched, “well it
wouldn’t be morally right to change the future”…you are morally
obligated to help someone if you can stop it!! You can’t argue with

John, why don’t you quit claiming that you’re from the future and actually make any attempt to prove that you are…
This is scary almost, does this guy actually beleive in what he
says? or did Art hire some science fiction just to keep these boards
interesting? There’s obviously some deception going on here…

Posted by Matt Hagemeier on 02-08-2001 02:03 PM
John. are you saying there isn’t enough skeptism on this board? Fom
what I observe, the skeptics on here out number us “sheep”.

There is no way I can know if you are real time traveler, I’m asking you questions because I’m interested in your answers.
My rational, logical mind says you are nothing but a bored cyber
geek with a lot of “time” (no pun intended) on your hands, however,
part of me also wants to believe that time travel is (or will be) a
realtiy as it has always been a facinastion of mine.

I know there is much more to the Universe that I can possibly
understand, therefore, my mind always will be open to new possiblities.

Posted by Louis D’Avenio on 02-08-2001 02:25 PM Thumbs down
John,When does your creative writing course end?????????

Posted by Jack Stansbury on 02-08-2001 02:47 PM
Mr. John the time merchant is he selling truth or lies??
The members of this BBS are people that want to believe, We aren’t
stupid. John give us the respect that we have given to you. Please tell
the truth. However if it is true you are just a geek tell the members
so. The truth will set you free !!!!!!!!!

Posted by D’Wayne Bolton on 02-08-2001 02:50 PM
As the 38? year old that you are today, do you remember yourself
showing up and visiting yourself as a three year old? Are your parents
still living in 2036? Have they ever mentioned your having time
traveled back to see them in 2001?

Posted by Jason Plett on 02-08-2001 05:24 PM Question
Mr. Titor, I find this fascinating. Perhaps, if you do not mind, I
would enjoy a ride in your time device. I am sure you wouldn’t mind me
taking a spin into the future a few years. If you are ever in the
Denver area let me know I would like to interview you and take a ride
in your machine.

Posted by Robert A. Cook on 02-08-2001 05:42 PM
Yep, Jason hit the nail right on the head, didn’t he?
I too would like to take a ride in the rumble seat of your time machine.
I would like to visit the late ‘fifties and early ‘sixties. I’d like to
have coffee with my father and my uncle, with spray-painted gold lamps
overhead, encrusted with plastic jewels.

I’d like to watch them smoke their pipes and cigarettes unmolested, and discuss the simple issues of their time.
Sadly, I believe time travel is bull***t.
I wish it were otherwise.

Posted by John Lensk on 02-08-2001 06:45 PM Question
John is there anything you can let us know about the future? I know
you are doing the whole “not gonna tell any real information due to
money being made off betting on the information you tell us”. But can
you just name some people who will be major tv stars or movie stars, or
future major politicians or major companies? Or even other major
technologies besides the obvious that we arent aware of?

Posted by John Titor on 02-08-2001 06:59 PM
This post addresses what I have seen before the last three. I enjoy the conversation and I will respond.
The “pattern” of exchange in the war will not be a surprise. Many
people will perish as a result of starvation and disease. I would also
submit that you already know if you’re safe or not. The trick is to not
turn off your fear when you’ll need it the most.

Australia is sort of interesting in what is unknown. After the war,
they were not very cooperative or friendly (can’t blame them really).
It is known they did repulse a Chinese invasion and most of their
cities were hit. They have a trading relationship with the U.S. but I
would characterize them as reclusive and ticked off.

When people use phrases like “See what I mean”, “You’re not hearing
what I’m saying” or “Something smells fishy”, they are indicating the
primary sense they use to process information about a situation. I find
it interesting that my credibility and the phrases that describe it
hinge on economic terms and whether or not I have something to sell. I
don’t. I also don’t know how to clarify my position any better so I
would suggest that if what I say angers you, it might be best to just
consider it fiction. Soon you’ll get bored and I will leave in a few
months. Either way, it won’t be an issue.

The “enemy” that was attacked by Russia in the U.S. was the forces of the government you live under right now.
((…or just some guy who gets off misleading others.))
I do not seek followers to mislead. I seek safety, animosity and good conversation.
(2). To me it would seem obvious that we both have a very different
perspective on what’s important right now in 2001. I would think that’s
what makes our interaction interesting. Would I be anymore believable
if I told you I had just stopped a horrible event and you won’t hear
about it because it didn’t happen? Again, this is the second time it
has come up and I am very curious. Why would you expect a time traveler
to know or care about what happens in Hollywood or some individual
companies profits? You seem to think I have tomorrow’s paper in front
of me. Is that what time travel means to you?

(3) I never said I was a scientist. If this is about economics
somehow and you hope to “buy” my story, then what do I gain by
“selling” it?

(5) You already know that cars are dangerous and planes crash. I’m very
confident you are capable of killing yourselves without my
intervention. Actually, my moral obligation has nothing to do with you,
it’s between me and God.

Deception? Exactly what standard do you use to measure the truth
around you? I have seen other threads with amazing and potentially real
experiences on them. Why am I more threatening?

I have no memory of meeting an older me as a three year old. The events
between worldlines are isolated and nothing I do here will affect my
worldline. Yes, my parents are alive in 2036 but they have no
experience with a time traveling “me” in their 2001 either.

Posted by Ernie Vega on 02-08-2001 09:39 PM Cool
Hi John:
I’ve read all the postings here and I sense that what we have here
is a failure to communicate. It’s been my experience that the majority
of posters on this board are genuinely open minded, and ready to
believe. Actually I’m intrigued by the escalating level of frustration
being experienced here, and wonder where it’s going.

In my opinion you have sparked a good discussion here. If you are
from the future, then we all have something to learn from you. If you
are not, then it’s a good game of cat and mouse, and since audience
participation is not mandatory, I really have no reason to be upset
with you. For me the challenge here is two-fold.

1. To try and somehow get you to validate yourself without violating your ethics.
2. To try to get you to trip yourself up, and prove yourself a hoax.
Either way in the end we all get what we wanted.
Rather than degenerating into a “let’s get John mob” I propose we try
to devise creative lines of questioning to get to the bottom of the
“John Titor” story.

I don’t believe animosity is a requirement for a satisfying
excercise in thinking. We do need to level the playing field so it
would be helpful if you would agree to a few “rules of sportsmanship”
(pardon the P.I. sexist reference).

You have more than once noted your disdain for our colloquialisms
and cultural inclinations. This is inherently unfair, and you should
give it some thought. You being the “TT”, have an unfair advantage
here. We do live in an economy based society and it’s natural for us to
use terms like, “Im sold”. You used the term “off the cuff” in your
comments about “buying in”, does this mean in the future “cuffs” have
some cultural significance? or is it simply a familiar concept?
….food for thought.

I of course only speak for myself, so here are my questions.
1. Is John Titor your real name? (just kidding)
2. What is the name of your locality/State/Country?
3. Are you a free man?
4. Have civil liberties become more significant?
5. Do you live in a racist society?
6. What is your form of government?
7. Would you be considered a member of the Patriot movement today?
8. In your time, have people developed their spirituality?
9. Do you know what happens when you die in your time?
10. If any what is the predominant religion?
11. Did Jesus come back?
12. Did we send manned missions to Mars?
13. What did we find on Mars?
14. Did we colonize the Moon?
15. Are we currently being bombarded by mind control devices?
16. Is Psionics a part of your every day life?
17. Is Europe made up of feudal states?
18. Did the N.W.O turn out to be real? or just vapor?
19. Do you have teleportation for the average citizen?
20. Was AIDS created by the government?
21. Are there gays in the military?
22. Are there gay people in your time?
23. What is your race?
24. Is there a Movie industry?
25. Is VR legal?
26. What is the average lifespan?
27. Why are you still using paper money?
28. As far as you know who is the most significant figure of the 21st century.
29. Do you use Tesla technology?
30. Given the differentials values you quoted, why can’t your
technology compensate by offsetting the target coordinates so the error
puts you in the correct “world time”?

31. Do you have the death penalty?
32. What is the most common crime commited?
33. Is race mixing allowed?
34. Is cloning common practice?
35. What is the racial make up of the continental U.S.
36. Is there segregation?
37. What is your education system like?
38. What is the woman’s role in your time?
39. Are there equal rights?
40. What sort of birth control do you practice?
41. Are there same sex marriages?
42. What happened to South America?
43. Are there recreational drugs?
44. Do you remember the Beatles?
45. What is the name of the Pope? (name changes)
If you answer these questions you will not violate any of your rules except for question #1, so I’ll retract that one.
That’s my 2 cents
PS: If you need a real web site I can give you one, all to
yourself, for as long as you stay in our time line. E-mail me if you
want it.

Posted by Charles Moltrup on 02-08-2001 11:30 PM
How close does asteroid 2000SG344 come to earth in the year 2030 I
will be 78 years old by then and want to find a big rock to hide under.
PS my time machine works all the time i call it the human mind it takes
me to any time line I want and it runs on Imagination. see ya around

Posted by Thurstan Davies on 02-09-2001 01:44 AM
Dear John Titor,
Thnak-you for your words :
“I would also submit that you already know if you’re safe or not. The
trick is to not turn off your fear when you’ll need it the most.”

After some pondering over your kind reply, I did smile at your words
and I did need to hear them, how ever many times I do hear them from
one source or another…

May I ask one question, when you saw my name “Thurstan” did you recognise it, I won’t ask why or how, or where, just if.
Once again Thank-you, I hope your project suceeds before ’38.
Best Regards

Posted by D’Wayne Bolton on 02-09-2001 06:32 AM
Many of the above questions are answered in preceeding posts.
If John is from the future, let’s keep his interest and not bore
him with the same questions over and over and over and over again.

However, some of the questions are new and I too would like to hear the answers.

Posted by Mel Reckling on 02-09-2001 10:45 AM
Unless you’ve been here for the last 10 years or so, how would know how we have seen the media coverage of Waco(94?),
Ruby Ridge(93?), Elian?

Posted by Chris Greycheck on 02-09-2001 11:11 AM
I must say that I am impressed as to how calm you remain, then again, that only helps to make you even more believable.
When I was referring to plane crashes, I meant you should be able
to tell us of near-future air disasters and their flight numbers, so we
can warn anyone that we may know, thus saving their lives. What is so
unreasonable about that?

Anyway, I am not totally clear on your point, of being here as
your main one was already shown to be redundant (getting us to at least
accept the possibility of TT), so what it’s going to be now?

Posted by Craig Cuthbert on 02-09-2001 12:33 PM
I would say if this is all legit – and I’m leaning that way as I
would rather it be, and I have nothing at stake – that the whole issue
is very much about divergence. Onb certain levels divergences matter
very little. For instance, did it really matter whether you got gas,
last Thurs., at an AMPM (amp ‘em) or a Chevromn Quik Mart? If a
timeline was altered and on a new line you found yourself gassing up at
a Texaco Food Mart AFTER you went to the Library, as opposed the AM/PM
(amp ‘em) before you went to the school board meeting – would it
matter? Suppose you went back in time and suggested to your bonehead
cousin that he should get a job at the new service center down the
street. And he met some girl there, they got married and now you get to
visit them once every year in LAs Vegas? Suppose you suggested he try
telemarketing at 1 800 RIGHT-IN-THE MIDDLE-OF-DINNER and he lasted 3.5
weeks and then found a job in Vegas dealing cards and then met some
girl there. I guess my point is that different divergences have
different “loads” of importance.

Enough … though true freedom means looking at these consequences on a
more continual basis than one would have if one were used to a more
routinized existence. I find this whole topic of divergence to be the
more intriguing topic (though I would like to know what Chinese pop
culture will look like.

Posted by John Titor on 02-09-2001 02:02 PM
For all of you interested in coming back with me to 2036, perhaps we
should discuss the trip. Please be aware, the displacement unit moves
through time, not space. First, we will be driving the current vehicle
(Chevy truck) with the displacement unit in it to Tampa Florida. From
there, we will go back to my arrival date on this worldline. Then we
will have to drive to Minnesota, sell the current vehicle and get
another one that would have been around in 1975. We will then move the
displacement unit (500 lbs or so) into the new vehicle and go back to
1975. Once in 1975, we’ll drive back to Tampa and make the final hop to
2036. If you’d like to stay in 1975, you’re welcome to do that. It can
also get quite hot and stuffy during the trip and you’ll be subjected
to a 1.5 to 2 G force the entire time. You’ll also need some sort of a
re-breather system or oxygen supply.

I have found that many misunderstandings and arguments are based on
the differences in understanding over a single word. Two different
cultures can have a drastic impact on the meaning of words like
“proof”, “trust” and “credibility”. My frustration is in understanding
the use of the words. I am trying to follow the logic of all of the

After reading the questions, I want to paint a picture that may help
with the general theme of our collective experience in 2036. The war
had very profound affects on people and how they relate to each other.
As individuals, almost everyone in 2036 is very familiar with death. We
all have stories of loved ones that have died from disease, war or acts
of inhumanity. Most of us have even taken part in dishing the same
thing out to the other side. As a result, we have become far more
compassionate to the ones we love but mush less forgiving to those who
don’t pull their weight. We are more accepting of other’s differences
in our community because we depend on them to survive. We are also more
conservative with our resources and closer to God because for a period,
life on Earth was Hell.

The other major difference is in the concept of good and evil. With
multiple worlds come multiple decisions and outcomes. For every good
act, there is an equal and possible bad act on another worldline. Taken
to the extreme, this must mean that in God’s eyes, there is no total
good and total bad in the superverse. It balances itself out to
infinity. I believe we are judged on the decisions we make as
individuals and the good/evil I see on my worldline is an illusion that
has no worth to God. My reaction to it is what’s important to God.
Although this may seem rather heartless, it does allow me to see past
the evil that people do and acknowledge the core of potential goodness
inside them.

2. I am currently based in Tamp Florida in Hillsborough County.
3. Yes I am free but I have obligations as a citizen. Everyone is
required to have basic military training and provide a period of time
for community service. It is very much like a type of mandatory
National Guard service + Peace Corps.

4. Yes civil liberties are more important. You will feel the same after having your house searched a couple of times.
5. We do not live in a racist society but definitely a prejudice one. Everyone carries their own water.
6. Our government looks very much like yours. It is a representative republic.
7. My definition of a patriot is anyone who defends the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
8. Religion has become far less centralized. Extremes tend to bring
you closer to God so I would characterize religion and spirituality as
a much more of a personal institution.

9. I do not know what happens when we die. However, I don’t think
it will be easy. There may be some very difficult decisions we have to
make when we die that we are totally unprepared for.

10. It’s difficult to define the most predominant religion.
Christianity has fragmented into many groups and people with different
beliefs speak mush more openly with others who have different outlooks
and opinions. I would imagine there are large groups of Hindus,
Buddhists and Muslims but I have not come across them personally.

11. No, Jesus did not come back. At least not that I’m aware of. If
or when Jesus returns, do you think he’ll be a lamb or a lion?

12. No mission to Mars but we are working on it. There is a group
working on the idea of gravity displacement to get into space but the
calculations and error rate are very large obstacles to overcome.

13. We don’t know what’s on Mars yet.
14. We’re not on the moon yet either. A great deal of technical effort is going into cleaning the planet up.
15. I’m not aware of any “mind control” devices being used on you now.
However, there are a great many “non lethal” weapon systems in
development that turn out to be quite lethal. Sometimes I watch your
television programs that show SWAT teams using new non-lethal weapons.
They usually start out with, “In the future, the army and police will
fight its enemies with new weapons systems…” When they use the word
“enemy”, they’re talking about YOU! You don’t really think the Marines
are going to jump out of helicopters overseas with sticky goop, pepper
spray and seizure lights, do you?

16. I’m not familiar with the term Psionics. I’ll look it up and see if we just have another word for it.
17. Yes, Europe is a mess.
18. Yes, I think the New World Order idea tried to establish
itself. I would consider them the combination of the old U.S. federal
system, Europe, Canada and Australia.

19. When you say “teleportation”, I assume you mean public transportation. Yes, we have a basic high-speed system.
20. I don’t know if the government created AIDS. I tend to think
yes but controlling it escaped them as it mutated. You can’t have
conspiracy to limit the population with a disease without the cure.

21. Yes, homosexuals are in the army. You tend to look past the
individual differences of people when thier job is to protect your

22. Yes, there are “gay” people in 2036.
23. I am a white male.
24. Yes, there is an entertainment industry. Again, it is very
decentralized. The technology to express yourself with video is so
readily available that many people do it all by themselves or in small
groups. Much of the distribution is over the web. I would compare it
theater here.

25. I don’t know what you mean by VR?
26. The average lifespan is about 60 but I expect that will imporve as we get things cleaned up.
27. Yes, paper money is still widely used.
28. The 21st century has awhile to go but the most significant person
in my opinion is the farmer-general who led us to victory.

29. Even for you Tesla technology can be found in appliances, motors
and generators. I would have to say we have come a long way on Tesla’s
foundation but we don’t have electricity rays that cause earthquakes.

30. Getting back to my exact worldline of origin is impossible but
it depends on how you define the correct worldline. I can get close
enough so neither I nor anyone there would know the difference. It
relates to the classic example of cutting a distance in half to reach
it. You can always get closer but never there. It also has a lot do
with neighboring universes on Penrose diagrams but that requires more

31. Yes, we have the death penalty. We also have public punishment.
32. The most common crime is theft.
33. I don’t understand what you mean by “race mixing”.
34. Cloning is not common. However, altering the sperm and egg cell
are common. It is very difficult to have children in 2036 for
environmental reasons.

35. It’s hard to say what the exact racial make up of the U.S. is.
I would say it’s probably the same minus 130 million people or so.

36. No, there is no segregation.
37. The education system is very similar to yours but the
organization and implementation is controlled on a community and county
level. Various communities also specialize in certain disciplines.

38, 39. My comments on equal rights and “women’s roles” could be
quite lengthy and controversial. I wish to discuss that separately.
However, women do fight in the military just as the men do but their
role on the community level is very conservative.

40. Having children is such a serious issue in 2036 that birth
control is almost unheard of. It is very difficult and precious to have
and raise children. Again, this is an issue I will be happy to go into

41. Yes, there are same sex marriages but it’s not very common.
Again, people have lived through so much hardship that if what someone
else is doing does not affect them or harm the community, it’s not a
big issue.

42. South America went relatively unharmed. However, there is still a great deal of internal conflict with conventional arms.
43. Yes, people use drugs that alter consciousness but they are not very common.
44. Yes, I know who the Beatles are. Old music and other entertainment is available on the web.
45. There is another Pope but I do not know his name.
I do remember the name Thurstan. Isn’t that a character on a television program about people stranded on a desert island?
I do believe that “you’re” UNIX will also have a problem in 2038. I
don’t think that’s a secret but maybe someone should put a 5100 aside
for thirty years or so.


Posted by Brett Fredrico on 02-09-2001 07:04 PM Lightbulb
One Question for the time traveler….
You mention a full scale nuclear weapons deployment as a result of
WWIII. You also mention that electronics, computers, and even the
Internet still functioning some time after that. Can you explain how
these devices (and more importantly the facilities that made them)
withstood the EMP airbursts associated with any full scale nuclear war?
Every electronic device would be inorperable after such an event and it
would take decades (if even possible) to rebuild the infrastructure to
allow for the building of an electric razor, let alone an Internet.

Posted by Ernie Vega on 02-09-2001 07:16 PM Thumbs up
First, thanks for the insightful answers. I have to admit that the
overall picture you paint, sounds very real, and sobering. As you
accurately detected my questions were really an excercize in profiling.
You are either from the future as you say, or you are the next Robert

As for me, in as much as I have been given to understand by your
answers you don’t have the mentality of a hoaxer. Actually you sound
like a 30 something, militia member who has experienced much hardship,
and your calm yet aggressive demeanor indicates you are accustomed to
making difficult decisions. Your “skirting” of the “equality” issue and
your use of the word “prejudiced” is indicative of the kind of hard,
post war climate you claim to be from, and the measures that would be
required for survival. I assume your comment “everyone carries their
own water” was both literal and figurative? and is the equivalent of
“our” “you have to carry your own weight”?

As a programmer, the UNIX issue you refer to is a bit of a problem.
I write code in APL, PLI, Lisp, C, C++, VB, Fortran , Cobol, smalltalk,
Java, Python, and a slew of less known languages. The 2038 “bug” is
about as dangerous as the Y2K bug. I can “with a little tweaking” do
anything with a computer that can be done with a computer. I assume
there are programmers in 2036, that being the case, a “good programmer”
can fix your Y2K38 date inconsistency. As for the undocumented IBM
design modification in the 5100, I know nothing so I can’t comment

The new .net platform from microsoft has the capability to integrate
all the languages you mentioned + all the ones I mentioned. Would it
not be easier to write in the original language instead of having a
machine translation?

Can you tell me how your UNIX differs from ours?
As for proof, I don’t think any is forthcoming that would be “conclusive”.
At this point I have no concrete reason to disbelieve anything you say save for standard skepticism.
I’d like to discuss some current technology with you in private if you have the time. If you can E-mail me I’d appreciate it.
Good luck John, you’re an interesting person, thanks for the conversation.
PS. Thurston Howell is the name of a character on “Gilligand’s Island”. for a definition of psionics you can check If you guys can run windows, I have some software for you that would come in real handy in your time. (really!)

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